Whos your favourite Character

[krystalepyon]

plantress said:

Just because Sakuno doesn't go jumping around screaming at the top of her lungs doesn't mean she doesn't have spirit, she's just got a much quieter personalties.

I was alot like Sakuno when I was her age, complete with having a really loud best friend. I even wore my hair in a braid all the time.

Sakuno seriously makes me want to tear my hair out. She frustrates me to no end. Enough pussyfooting around. >.<

Actually, I retract my previous statement. She's WORSE than Relena (and that's saying a lot) because at least Relena made an effort to get what she wanted, she wasn't afraid of being 'left behind' or rejected (or killed, dear god I can't believe I'm actually complimenting her, but this is how much Sakuno annoys me!!!)

[plantress]

Soooo....Tomoka is better because she screams Ryoma's name every five seconds? Even though that is obviously annoying to him?

Really the girls aren't given that much character development since Prince of Tennis isn't about them. Besides, Sakuno is only twelve. They are going to grow-up and change. Sakuno probably will get more confident as she gets older and gets better at tennis.

[Lovux The Great]

hakuryu said:

So...I'm with Lovuz in the SakunoxTomoka.

Good girl! (^______________^)

Yay, new nickname.

[hakuryu]

Yay! Lovux-seme congratulated me! *shiny eyes* I'm so happy ♥.♥

[Mashou no Tenshi]

The problem with Sakuno is not her quietness. She lacks spirit in a complete way. I mean c´mon! Everyone can be insecure, and I have my tensedncy too but I cant forgive someone who lacks courage, especially when this is RYOMA ECHIZEN we are talking about.
Tomoka may scream too much but she is a centered mature young woman, whereas Sakuno is a silly little girl.
Tomoka supports what Ryoma does, and I dont mean just by screaming; example? Tomoka was all "Yay! Ryoma }-sama is going to US to get himself recognized and win a lot" and Sakuno was all "No! Ryoma-kun is leaving I will cry and cry and cry" If she really likes Ryoma she should talk to the guy becacause Ryoma is not going to do the job for her.
She is constantly complaining. If a guy insults me the way little darling does with her I would probably smack his head with a tennis racket (sorry auntie for the bad use of rackets) but she only whines. Ryoma doesnt insult Tomo-chan even if she annoys the hell out of him. Because even if she loves/likes/whatever him, she has some actitude.
When is the pairing I can say the main flaw is Ryoma himselfd (OMG! Did I just say Ryoma and flaw together?!) He is too harsh and too honest to be able to dte someone so sensible. She would cry all the time and he would just get meaner and meaner with her. He doesnt like weakness or lack of spirits because he is the king of the nerver give uping school. And he shows his feeligns in a more subtle way she wont be able to see though the tears caused by his harsh honesty.

[Raiden]

...Tomoka and mature don't belong in the same sentence.

And, well... I'm like Sakuno. In the way that I DON'T want to talk to a guy I like. I want him to come to me. ...There's nothing wrong with being shy. And besides, she was 12 and just had her first crush so obviously she didn't know how to act. Just like me when my guy friend told me he had a girlfriend and I felt awful, even though I had thought of him only as a friend before... and obviously I didn't say anything.

[plantress]

How can you all Tomoka mature? She goes around SCREAMING to get Ryoma's attention. To me that is not mature.

And I'm like Raiden. Even when I the guy I liked lived on the same street as me and I could kick his butt in racing games, I never really talked to him. Different people have different ways to dealing with things, there is no wrong or right way.

[Mashou no Tenshi]

Girls, I she IS more mature than Sakuno. I mean, besides the screaming, she is the one who is constantly facing things in the most mature way. She is obviously head over heels with him bit she is able to pinpoint some things about the mistery that is my little darli9ng better than Sakuno and tell her how they are supposed to face that. She could destroy Sakuno with her personality (literaly crish her)but she roots for her and helps her with Ryoma. That is the mature way to face a shared crush (I am having flashbacks of the Ino/Sakura fight here)

And I dont have a problem with shy people. I have a problem with people who want to be with Ryoma yet they always act as a victim and dont really think of HIM. And people who lack spirit, who lack strenght. You can be shy and have, you know, energy and iniciative.

[Raiden]

mashounotenshi said:

And people who lack spirit, who lack strenght.

...That sounds dangerously close to that one view about the 'strong surviving because they step on weak people'. (Shit, I forgot the true proverb. >.<)

You know, there is a Japanese proverb that says "Only he who knows his own weaknesses can endure those of others."

[krystalepyon]

I think that's more of a vices and virtues statement. It doesn't really apply to physicality or general weakness of spirit.

I don't see the connection at all between 'people who lack spirit lack strength' and 'the strong surviving by stepping on the weak'. I think the former is a very fair and proufound statement, and one that I've seen many times in both anime and drama if not quite in those words.

If one has no spirit (which can be translated into having no drive or even no dream) then how can they achieve the strength to do anything? Whether it be to protect others, protect themself, to achieve what they want, or just to lead a peacful life. (And yes, that does take strength because a peaceful life in this world is NOT a natural thing and must be fought for.)

People tend to take the word to literally, but in philosophical terms, it really is a very different thing altogether.

[Raiden]

...Well, I lack some, too. I have no ambition whatsoever. But obviously it doesn't mean that I'm weak.

And Mashou... Sakuno's rather young, so her personality has room to change. -_____-;; ...I mean, I'M shy and I lack courage, too. ...I have never admitted to a guy that I liked him. ...In fact, if a guy told me HE liked me, I'd have no idea what I'd do or say. Keh, I also have no intention of approaching a guy first. I guess I'm too shy and feel to self-conscious.

And lacking courage? ...Well, every time I want to talk to someone but he or she's talking with someone else, I never butt in. I always wait until they're finished talking because I don't want to end up offending them. See? I don't even voice my opinion about matters because I don't want to offend anyone by choosing sides. I'm scared that they'd get offended and/or scream at me. Or even get physical. Yup, no courage whatsoever.

And hey, my Mom has asked me to try different things many times, but I've always said "No". ...Seriously, I don't want to climb down a 31-meter tall cliff-face even if I was equipped with safety gear (she asked me to do that, yes). I still get scared of horror movies, I can't watch the bloody operation scenes in hospital shows, I freak out if there are bees or wasps around (I mean REALLY freak out, like scream and jump and flail like crazy), I don't want spiders near me (I always kill them)... and I'm scared EVERY FREAKING TIME when I have to walk outside at night. Even if there were a friend or two or more with me and it was a well-lit road or street. -______-;;

[plantress]

The only time we ever see Sakuno is when she's around Ryoma and everyone else. Since as we noted before she is really shy, she probably won't show her real self around people she barely knows.

[krystalepyon]

That doesn't stop me from hating the person she is around those people she barely knows.

And Raiden, Spirit doesn't just equal ambition. It's so hard to explain, but it's just something she doesn't have. All she ever does is whine about how far away Ryouma is or fail to say "Congratulations" to him. How hard is that? It's about the most valid excuse there IS to talk to someone.

Honestly, I know you're trying to get me to sympathize by comparing her with yourself, but online you're nothing like that. I imagine you to be a very strong person because that's the impression you give off online. I can't imagine Sakuno changing even if she did go online.

And hell, if her personality changes "in the future (that doesn't exist cause it's the end of the series )" then I'll STILL hate who she is now.

[Raiden]

Oh well, still, I've never viewed Tomoka as mature. She's more like a bitchy brat. It's just that I can't stand loud and obnoxious female characters who just scream, scream and scream and get on bad terms with an adult (Shiba) because of her just complimenting someone (Ryoma).

Besides, even though I don't like Gakuto, I wanted to stick a pitchfork in Tomoka's head when she "Fshuu"ed him during that training arc. >.< Good thing she doesn't exist in the musicals. X3

[krystalepyon]

I think that cutting out any female characters was the best thing tenimyu ever did. (Aside from hiring Shirotan and Kazuki. XD)